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Magniwork能源互联网骗局
by Alexbenady on October 8, 2009 · 19 comments由Alexbenady于2009年10月8日 · 19评论
in ENERGY在能源
Stirling D Allan: “This is Fraud” Internet fraudsters are raking in thousands of dollars a day with an elaborate scam selling magnetic perpetual motion machines that are claimed to produce infinite free energy. 斯特林Ḏ艾伦：“这是欺诈”，互联网诈骗的腰包里掏出数千美元的精心销售磁性永动机是声称产生无限的自由能的机器，每天骗局。
Since spring this year an operation called Magniwork has been selling a $50 DIY guide to building a perpetual motion device at home.今年入春以后的行动称为Magniwork已经开始销售50美元的自助指导，在国内建设一个永动机设备。 On their web-site the fraudsters claim the materials are available in any local hardware store for less than $100.在他们的网站，网站的欺诈索赔的材料是当地的五金商店的价格不到100美元。 One estimate puts sales of the guide as high as 5,000 copies a month, making the scam worth up to $3ma year.一项估计的高达5000册，每月的销售指导，使诈骗价值高达三毫安年。
The claims for Magniwork are advanced via an extensive Google advertising campaign, and a network of blogs, web-sites and reviews endorsing the product.为Magniwork先进的索赔通过广泛的谷歌广告，以及网络博客，网站和审查认可的产品。 They are given further credibility by a clip of film from Sky News Australia about plans for a similar product made by a legitimate if optimistic research company called Lutec.给他们由来自澳大利亚的电影天空新闻短片进一步信誉大约为合法的，如果乐观的研究称为Lutec公司生产类似产品的计划。 Lutec patented its technology in 19 countries in 1999, but the product has still not seen the light of day. Off-Grid has discovered that the clip is over 8 years old. Lutec在19个国家获得专利的技术在1999年，但产品仍没有看到曙光。离网发现，剪辑的8岁以上的。
Perpetual motion machine 永动机
Magniwork which describes its product as 'a magnetic power generator' claims to have invented a revolutionary off-grid power source that uses magnets to “power itself and create energy by itself, without requiring solar energy, heat, water, coal or any kind of resource.” The web-site promises the device will generate perpetual energy which will “fully power your home for free.” Magniwork它描述为'一个磁场，发电机'宣称已经发明了一种革_命性离网电源，使用磁铁的“权力本身，创造本身无需能源太阳能，热，水，煤或任何种，其产品资源。“该网页承诺的设备将产生持续不断的能量，将”充分的权力，您可以免费回家。“
However even the idea of such a device is dismissed by trained physicists.但即使是这种装置的想法是由训练有素的物理学家驳回。 “The little explanation they give on their website makes no sense to me,” said Gunnar Pruessner, a lecturer in physics at Imperial College London. “小的解释，他们在其网站上给予是没有意义的我，说：”贡纳尔普吕斯纳，在物理学伦敦帝国学院讲师。 “For starters it breaks with all we know about quantum physics since Dirac, which says that we cannot tap into zero point fluctuations or virtual particles.” “对于初学者，因为它与所有狄拉克，我们对量子物理学知道休息的说，我们不能打入零点波动或虚粒子。”
Priceless IP 无价的IP
He observed that if the claims were true, they would mark the biggest advance in science ever.他指出，如果索赔属实，他们将标志着有史以来最大的科技进步。 “It would bring a world-wide socio-economic revolution with incalculable political consequences. “这将带来一个全球性的社会，政_治后果无法估量的经济革_命。 So you have to ask why are they scuzzing around selling their priceless IP (intellectual property) for a few dollars?”所以你必须要问，为什么他们围绕出售其珍贵的IP（知识产权几美元）？scuzzing“
Made in Macedonia 在马其顿
The site gives no way of contacting Magniwork -other than to order the guide.该网站没有给Magniwork联系方式，而不是为了指导其他。 But its legal disclaimer reveals that despite the .com web address which suggests a US-based company, Magniwork is in fact located in Macedonia, a tiny republic on the northern border of Greece in Europe.但其合法声明显示，尽管。com网址，这表明以美国为基地的公司，Magniwork在马其顿，一对希腊北部边境的欧洲小共和国境内的事实是。 “This Agreement shall all be governed and construed in accordance with the laws of Macedonia applicable to agreements made and to be performed in Macedonia,” it reads. It has similarly proved difficult to identify the individuals behind the scheme. “本协定，均应按照管辖和解释，适用于马其顿的协议和将要在马其顿执行的法律，”它读取。它同样也证明难以确定该计划背后的个人。 But one researcher claims to have written to the site's web-master who referred in his reply to a man simply called “Igor”, the manual's publisher.但是，一位研究者声称已经写信给网站的网页主机谁在答复中提到简称为“一个人伊戈尔”，该手册的发行。
Kernel of truth 真理的内核
Angry customers admit that the guide does contain kernels of truth.愤怒的客户承认，指导确实包含真理的内核。 “Some of the suggestions in the e-book can reduce your home power consumption. “一些在电子图书，可以减少你的家能耗的建议。 For example, checking for air leaks, have better home insulation, servicing your air-conditioning unit or heate etc,”wrote one. But is it essentially amateurish and misleading, they say.例如，空气泄漏检查，家中有更好的绝缘性，服务的空调机组或加热器等，“写了一个。但它本质上是业余和误导，他们说。 “The whole “document” is 57 pages long and looks like something a kid in high school put together. The final “generator” is basically a magnet that is 2″ high sitting on a turntable that is 4″ high! “整个”文件“是57页，喜欢的事，在高中的孩子放在一起看。最后的”发电机“基本上是一个磁铁是2”高转盘上的是4“高坐！ They claim that its output is 24.5 Watts! That is 1/100th of what my house uses when the AC is on.他们声称，它的输出为24.5瓦！这就是我的家什么时候使用的百分之一交流上。 It wouldn't put out enough power to light up a standard light bulb,“ wrote another angry blogger. Fraudulent它不会救足够的电力来点亮灯泡标准中写道：“一个愤怒的Blogger。 欺诈
Alternative energy expert Sterling D. Allan founder of The New Energy Congress has examined Magniwork's claims.替代能源专家925 D.艾伦的新能源代表大会审查Magniwork创始人的主张。 “Most of the 50+ page manual contains energy conservation tips that are based on well-established principles,” he said. “大部分50 +页的手册中包含节能的提示，是基于一些确定的原则，”他说。 But he points out that plans for the device are freely available elsewhere, they are based on other people's work and he claims to have tried to contact people offering testimonials, without success. “The wording on their site still gives the reader the idea that the plans will result in a working free energy device but that is not the case.但他指出，该设备计划是免费提供的其他地方，他们是在其他人的工作基础上，他声称已经尝试联络人提供没有成功见证。“他们的网站上仍然措辞使读者的想法，计划将导致自由能装置的工作，但事实并非如此。 Such representation is fraud,” he concluded.这种代表性是欺诈行为“他的结论。
Although highly implausible, the idea of somehow harvesting magnetic power has intrigued scientists for over a century.虽然非常难以置信了一个多世纪，有点收获的磁性电源想法很感兴趣科学家。 It was first suggested by pioneering physicist Nicola Tesla in the nineteenth century.这是第一次提出了开拓物理学家尼古拉特斯拉在19世纪。 Australian company Lutec is still trying to perfect such a device.澳大利亚公司Lutec仍在努力完善这种装置。 And US based based Magnetic Power Inc, headed by Mark Goldes, has claimed to be on the verge of launching a 'Magnetic Power Module' for at least six years.而美国和基于磁电公司，由Mark戈尔代斯为首，自称是在发射的边缘一'磁性电源模块'，至少6年。 There is no suggestion that either Lutec or MPI are part of the scam.没有人建议，要么Lutec或MPI都是骗局的一部分。
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1 Mark Goldes October 8, 2009 at 5:38 pm 1 马克戈尔代斯 10月8日，2009年在下午5时38分
Thank you for posting information about this Magniwork scam and making clear that Magnetic Power Inc. (MPI) is not involved.感谢发布有关此Magniwork诈骗信息，清楚地表明，磁电公司（MPI）的不涉及你。 In the past they did mention our work and when legal action was threatened they removed any mention of MPI.在过去，他们曾提到我们的工作，当威胁采取法律行动，他们取消MPI的任何提及。
MPI Magnetic Power Modules are now being developed by Chava Energy. MPI的磁性电源模块目前正在开发Chava能源。 When they are in production they will be marketed as MagGen(tm).当他们在生产，他们将作为MagGen（商标销售）。
Those who do not believe magnetic systems can tap new sources of energy might enjoy the article titled: Perpetual Commotion, on the Chava website: http://chavaenergy.com那些谁不相信磁系统，可开发利用新能源的来源，可能享受的文章标题为：永久的Chava混乱事件获得网站：http://chavaenergy.com
Potential automotive applications of MagGen, and another revolutionary energy development, are briefly described in the article: 5 Steps to Revive the Auto Industry and the Economy It can be found on the Aesop Institute website: http://www.aesopinstitute.org潜在的汽车应用MagGen，另有革_命能源开发，简要介绍了文章：5个步骤恢复汽车产业和IT可以在伊索经济研究所的网站上找到：http://www.aesopinstitute.org
2 Sterling Allan October 9, 2009 at 5:06 am 2 925艾伦 10月9日上午在5:06 2009
They didn't come up with the IP, they merely poked around the internet and grabbed something that looked nominally convincing.他们没有提出知识产权时，他们只是在互联网附近戳，抓名义上的东西，看上去说服力。 It's piracy.这是盗版。
On our site, http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork , we list 30 different virtual domains that have been used in Google AdWords campaigns promoting the product.在我们的网站，http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork，我们列出30个不同的已在谷歌的AdWords广告系列产品的推广使用虚拟域。 In my AdSense account, I block all 30 of these so they don't show up in my ad space.在我的AdSense帐户，我阻止所有这些，使它们不会显示在我的广告空间了30。
Though I've reported this scam to Google, I'm guessing that those who have reviewed it don't feel qualified to make a determination of fraud.虽然我已经谷歌报告了这一骗局，我猜测，那些已审查谁不认为它有资格进行欺诈的决心。 They see what appears to be happy customers, they see a money back guarantee.他们认为，这似乎是满意的客户，他们看到退款保证。
What they don't see is that the large bulk of people buy the plans then don't do anything with them because they're too complicated.他们没有看到的是，公司大部份的人计划购买的就不要随意使用它，因为它们太复杂了。
I seriously doubt that there is anyone actually powering anything, let alone a home, using the Magniwork generator plans.我严重怀疑任何人有任何实际供电，更不用说一个家，使用Magniwork发电机计划。 They're making that stuff up.他们正在生产的东西了。 It is fraud, plain and simple.这是欺诈，简单明了。 I've not see one photo or video of a completed device.我还没有看到一张照片或完成设备视频。 I've not seen any data from output.我从来没见过从输出任何数据。 All I've seen is people claiming they are powering stuff, and I question their integrity if they don't provide evidence to back their claim.所有我见过的人声称他们已被采用的东西，我怀疑其完整性，如果他们不提供证据支持他们的索赔。
3 Lewis Jenkins October 9, 2009 at 1:13 pm 3 刘易斯詹金斯 2009年10月9日在1:13 pm
I purchased a $49 version of this program, because I saw it on a trusted site, then I found negatives on several accounts (pewsiki for one) I then wrote to the company requesting a refund, which happened several weeks later.我购买了这个程序的49元的版本，因为我看到的是一个可信任的网站，那么，我发现在几个帐户底片（pewsiki 1）然后，我写信给该公司要求退款，而那几个星期后。 The last note I received from this company follows:最后一个音符我与这家公司收到如下：
Dear Sir,亲爱的主席先生，
I must've missed your previous e-mail, sorry about that, I assure you余must've错过了以前的电子邮件，很遗憾，我向你保证
that this is an honest company.这是一个诚实的公司。
I have issued a refund on your order, it takes up to 2 working days for我已对你的订单退款，但需要长达2个工作日
the refund to be processed, so please be patient.退款要处理，所以请耐心等待。
Kind Regards,亲切的问候，
Vojdan Vrcakovski Vojdan Vrcakovski
I must confess the plans looked very appealing.我必须承认的计划看起来非常有吸引力。
Lewis刘易斯
4 Mark Coffman October 9, 2009 at 3:52 pm 4 马克考夫曼 10月9日，2009年在下午3时52分
This Magni-work seems to have changed their content这马尼，工作似乎已经改变了他们的内容
several times to avoid stepping on other peoples几次避免对其他国家人民的加强
legitimate legal claims, the only problem is, what合法的法律要求，唯一的问题是，什么
they now have probably no longer has any technical他们现在可能已经不再具有任何技术
merit.值得。 It's difficult to level critisizem at something这很难在一些水平critisizem
that keeps changing.是在不断变化。 It definitely seems like a scam.这肯定似乎是一个骗局。
:S:MarkSCoffman为：S：MarkSCoffman
5 Magniwork scam October 11, 2009 at 2:10 pm 5 Magniwork骗局 10月11日，在下午2时10 2009
Ah too bad, I found way too many negative reviews on this stuff to buy this now.啊太糟糕了，我发现这个东西的方式有太多的负面评论，现在购买此。
Would love to see though an actual video made by those that failed.希望能看到实际的视频，但这些失败的。 Who knows?谁知道？ After all magnetic energy is still hardly understood by us (other than the opposite poles attract and it can generate electricity if you move it in a coil etc etc) as far as I know.毕竟磁能仍然是我们很难理解（除两极吸引，它可以发电，如果您移动它在线圈等等等），据我所知。
6 Bob October 11, 2009 at 3:38 pm 6 鲍勃 10月11日，2009年在下午3时38分
It's fraudsters like this that give a bad name to real companies selling viable alternative energy products like hydrogen generators.像这样的骗子给一个不好的名字出售可行的，如氢气发生器替代能源产品的实际公司。 There are plenty crappy books in this genre as well, which makes our job much harder.有很多蹩脚的书籍，这种风格也，这使得我们的工作更加困难。 Nevertheless, we actually respond to peoples questions and give warranties and tech support, showing we are a viable company, based in California.然而，我们真的可以顺应人民的问题，并给予保证和技术支持，显示我们是一个可行的公司，位于加利福尼亚州。 Our new line of HHO generators is twice as efficient as most out there and are due to be released in just a few short days…我们对克罗地亚赫尔辛基人_权发电机的新生产线的两倍，高效率的，因为大多数的存在并且是由于在短短几天内获释...
Magniwork should be shut down if they cannot produce testimonies and real product proof. Magniwork应该关闭，如果他们不能产生实际产品的证词和证据。 I think the FTC is getting ready to do this…我认为，美国联邦贸易委员会正准备这样做...
Bob鲍勃
7 Douglas Furr October 11, 2009 at 6:16 pm 7 道格拉斯弗尔 10月11日，在下午6点16 2009
I noticed an ad for this product a few weeks ago on Sterling's site, and subsequently purchased the 57 page brief.我注意到该产品的广告在几个星期前在925的网站，并随后购买了57页的文件。 Yes, I paid the $49 credit card, and yes, I was excited to download the materials and build a model in my machine shop.是的，我付了49元的信用卡，是的，我很兴奋下载的材料和我的机器车间建立一个模型。 When I reviewed the brief it was, as Mr. Allen has suggested, written so poorly that I doubt anyone can make enough sense of it to actually construct one.当我回顾了简短的是，正如阿伦先生建议，写得不好，我怀疑任何人都可以利用它足够的理智，实际创建一个。 I am a PhD mechanical engineer, have an advanced machine shop and cad/cam software but cannot dicypher the plans well enough.我是机械工程师博士学位，具有先进的加工车间和CAD / CAM软件，但不能dicypher计划得很好。
In my heart I believe that a combination of electromagnetic enegy and permanent magnet forces can, (and will someday), be combined to create some kind of over-unity, but this ain't it.在我心中，我相信的是，电磁和永磁监测站，力量的组合可以，（将一天），合并，形成一种过度的统一，但这是不是。 So, off to the Chava and Lutec sites I go…..因此，就到Chava和Lutec网站我去... ..
8 ed scarlett October 12, 2009 at 6:52 am 8 版斯佳丽 10月12日，2009年在6时52分
magnets 4 less seems scam too can you locate them so i can have attornry general look into it?磁铁似乎少收4诈骗你也可以找到他们，所以我可以有attornry到它的外观？
9 Sonny October 15, 2009 at 4:20 am 9 桑尼 10月15日上午在4:20 2009
I think the e-book Magnet4Energy sells is the same as that of Magniwork.我认为，电子图书Magnet4Energy销售是作为Magniwork相同。
I did order but requested for refund (which they refund right away) as soon as I see that the guide is not really a step by step guide and you have to create some molds and fiberglass and that's too complicated for me to make, I thought as per their ads is I can use readily available parts from hardware store.我没有秩序，而且退款（他们立即退还尽快）要求我认为，指南是不是一个真正的一步一步指导你必须创造一些模具和玻璃纤维，这就是对我来说太复杂，使，我以为按他们的广告，我可以用从五金店利用现成的配件。
10 C. 10 长 Alexander Brown October 23, 2009 at 1:03 pm 亚历山大布朗 10月23日，2009年在下午1时03分
QUESTION: Where are law enforcement agencies?问：在哪里执法机构？ The Internet has become a free-for-all for fraudsters and thieves, vast sums are being purloined daily in various ways, and worldwide, innocent people's lives disrupted and damaged.互联网已经成为自由参加的所有骗子和小偷，大量资金被盗取每天正在以各种方式，和世界各地，无辜的人们的生活受到干扰，破坏。 But no country has a coherent policy for dealing with this plague, and there are no broadly based international cooperative effort.但是，任何国家都为这一疫情的一贯的政策，并没有广泛的国际合作努力。 What is to be done to change this situation?什么是工作要做，以改变这种状况？ Because something has to be done.因为有些事情要做。 Things cannot be allowed to continue like this.事情不能再继续下去这样。 I myself filed complaints with numerous American Federal and also state law enforcement agencies against a company operation as the “Video Professor” and have received no response and seen no action from any of them.我本人对公司提出的投诉，经营“视频教授”，并没有得到任何回应，并没有看到他们任何行动，美国联邦Z.F.和许多州的法律也执法机构。 A little bit of research revealed that there are thousands of complaints against the “Video Professor,” yet no action is being taken by police or prosecutors!!一点点的研究显示，有数以千计的投诉对“视频教授”，但没有采取任何行动是由警_察或检察官采取的！ So I am in the process of hiring a law firm to launch a class action lawsuit against this company for steeling $600.oo from my credit card account.所以我在雇用一家法律公司对本公司推出的锻炼，从我的信用卡帐户$ 600.oo集体诉讼的进程。 I was once a government official with responsibility for Consumer Protection, yet even with this background I was “taken” by these scam artists!!我曾经是保护消费者的责任的Z.F.官员，但即使在这种背景下，我是“被这些骗子”！ So what chance has the average lay person?所以，有什么机会平均在于人吗？ Broadly speaking, folks have to go beyond blogging about the problems of Internet fraud and thievery.一般来说，人们必须超越对互联网诈骗和偷窃的问题，博客。 I suggest bringing organized pressure on law enforcement officials.我建议把组织了执法人员的压力。
11 Eric Krieg October 27, 2009 at 11:38 am 11 埃里克克里格 10月27日，2009年在11点38分
If there ever is a free energy system that really works, it would be hard to find through the din of hoards of con men and lunatics pitching the same kinds of claims.如果有过是一个免费的能源系统，是真的，就很难找到通过的骗子和俯仰索赔同类疯子窖藏喧嚣。
I see widespread free energy scams having been ripping people off for about 100 years now.我看到的普遍自由能诈骗的人在被翻录小康大约100年。 The biggest crooks are people like Dennis Lee (his latest prosecution now by the FTC) who scams people out of 100's of thousands in dealerships or other kinds of investment in false technology.最大的骗子像丹尼斯李的人（现在他的最新起诉由联邦贸易委员会）谁诈骗了100人的经销商或在其他虚假的技术投资上千种的。 All the way on the low end are scams like magniwork and fuelless power which operate a safe smaller cost per victim scam of selling kits that don't work.所有在低端的方式就像magniwork和fuelless权力诈骗经营的每一个安全的小贩卖的受害者成本包不工作的骗局。 It is hard to prosecute the smaller scam – their worst effect is wasting people's time trying to get a damned from the start kit working – of course if you complain it doesn't work, they have the audacity to call you too stupid to make it work when you were only stupid enough to trust them for plans for the impossible.很难起诉小骗局-最差的实际上是浪费别人的时间试图让工作从一开始就包一个该死的-当然，如果你抱怨没有工作，他们大胆地打电话给你太愚蠢，使其工作时，你只是愚蠢到相信为不可能的计划。
Eric Krieg埃里克克里格
12 H Katz November 11, 2009 at 10:09 pm 12 ħ卡茨 11月11日，2009年在下午10时09分
Never in the history of the internet has anyone mounted a more thorough propaganda campaign.从未在互联网历史的人发起了更深入的宣传活动。 The criminals (in my opinion) behind this really know how to manipulate search engines so it's almost impossible to find anything negative about it.罪犯（在我看来）背后的真正知道如何操作的搜索引擎，所以几乎不可能找到任何有关它的负面。 In addition, chat rooms are found and bogus success stories are posted, negative comments removed.此外，聊天室被发现的假成功的故事张贴，负面评论删除。 What a clever and massive effort they have demonstrated.多么聪明和大规模的努力，他们已经证明。 If they devoted all that effort for the good of mankind, we would all know their names.如果他们都致力于为全人类的利益，我们都知道他们的名字，努力。 As it is, they must hide their identity.因为它是，他们必须隐藏自己的身份。 How do we know they are bogus?我们怎么知道他们是假的？ In all the history of mankind no one has ever produced a free energy machine that can be operated by an independent party.在所有人类从来没有人产生了自由能的机器，可以由一个独立的第三方经营的历史。 Never.从不。 Not one time.不是一次。 Only the so called inventors can ever demonstrate it in controlled conditions.只有所谓的发明人都不能证明控制的条件下。 Be real, what are the chances of you the reader finding one on the internet?是真实的，什么是你的机会读者在互联网上寻找呢？ One that you can easily build in your spare time and can be explained with elementary school level pseudo science?一，您可以轻松地构建在空余时间，可以与小学一级伪科学的解释？ No really important discovery can be kept a secret for long.没有真正重要的发现，可以长期保持着秘密。 The technology for the atomic bomb was even published and available to the public (it's been recalled since).为原子弹的技术，甚至出版，提供给公众（它被召回以来）。
Don't be so open minded that your brain falls out (not to mention your wallet as well).别这么开明的态度，你的大脑脱落（更不用提您的钱包以及）。
13 howie November 23, 2009 at 6:27 am 13 豪伊 11月23日，2009年在6时27分
yes i have sent my money to them , cant get in touch with them是我给我的钱给他们，cannot在与他们接触
yes i have down loaded my scam of a 57 page SCAM is there any address being in the uk,是的，我有我装了一个57页的骗子行骗没有任何解决目前在英国，
what a fool i was,真是一个傻瓜我，
14 H Katz November 24, 2009 at 5:21 pm 14 ħ卡茨 11月24日，2009年在下午5时21分
howie,豪伊，
Sorry you lost you money.对不起你失去了你的钱。 It took a lot of courage and honesty to post your experience.它采取了许多勇气和诚实张贴您的经验。 Perhaps it will warn others away.或许它会警告其他人了。
Harvey哈维
15 GENRAY December 4, 2009 at 9:49 am 15 GENRAY 12月4日上午在9:49 2009
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT MAGNIWORK IS A SCAM SAVE YOUR MONEY AND CHECK IT OUT ON THE FREE POSTINGS OF THE BOGUS PLANS但毫无疑问，MAGNIWORK是一个骗局节省你的钱，一查就假免费张贴淘汰计划
BUT IF YOU REALLY INTERESTED LOOK UP TROY REED THIS GUY REALLY RATES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&feature=related但是如果你真的感兴趣的向上聂德特洛伊这家伙真正地价格http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&feature=related查询
16 Bob Free December 6, 2009 at 6:33 pm 16 鲍勃免费 2009年12月6日在6:33 pm
Insidiously, this article itself — as of 6 Dec 2009 — has a prominent Google sidebar with what looks like two advertising items:不知不觉地，本文本身作为09年12月6日- -有一个什么项目，如广告看起来两个突出的谷歌工具栏：
“Ads by Google由谷歌“广告
“Make a Magnetic Generator – To Create Free Electricity to Power Your Home, A Must Read, Get it Now – Electricity-Generator.net” “制作磁发电机-建立自由的电力您的家，一个必须阅读，获取现在-电力Generator.net”
and:和：
“Magnetic Generator Plans – Use magnetic power to generate free electricity to power a home & more – URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR” “磁发电机的计划-利用磁性自由的权力，产生的电力1家及更多-网址去除离网编辑器”
Each has a footer: “Affiliate of Magniwork”每个人都有一个页脚：“对Magniwork加盟”
In fact, they are identical links directing you to the:事实上，他们是您引导到相同的链接：
“Magniworks Main Website. “Magniworks主要网站。 Just Link Below”只要下面的链接“
“URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR” “网址去除离网编辑器”
17 Jim December 8, 2009 at 3:51 pm 下午 17 吉姆 2009年12月8日在15:51:00
Is there no one who has actually made electricity from any device?有没有人实际是谁提出的任何设备用电？
18 H Katz December 9, 2009 at 4:43 pm 18 ħ卡茨 12月9日，在下午4点43分2009
Jim,吉姆，
Not one “over unity” device has ever made more energy then it took to run it – ever.没有一个统一的多“，”设备作过那么多的能源来运行它了-永远。
The good news:好消息：
Solar works.太阳能工程。
Wind Energy Works.风电工程。
Nuclear power Works.核电工程。
Hydro Electric works水利电力工程
Tidal power works.潮汐发电工程。
New (and proven) nuclear reactors can recycle and re-use over 90% of its own waste.新的（证明）核反应堆可以回收和再利用超过90％自身废物。 This could be used long enough until we find something better.这可用于足够长的时间，直到我们找到一个更好的。 There's enough nuclear fuel to last for centuries.有足够的核燃料，持续几个世纪。
Note that all the workable solutions were developed by teams of physicists, scientists, and others working together for a common goal.请注意，所有制定了可行的解决办法由物理学家，科学家团队和他人合作的共同目标。 Compare this to spending $50 on an internet scam so you can be the one to “save the world”.比较这花费互联网诈骗50美元，因此您可以成为一个“拯救世界”。 Kind of puts it into perspective doesn't it?一种提出这个观点，不是吗？
19 boyan December 31, 2009 at 2:57 pm 下午 19 伯延 2009年12月31号在2:57
Hi can someone send the plans of that “scam” to me.您好可以有人发送的“骗局”我的计划。 I am curious to look at them?我很想看？ thanks谢谢
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